My brother lied

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Post 1 by ApplePeaches (If the zone bbs was a drug, I'd need rehab.) on Friday, 26-Feb-2016 23:27:44

So my brother and I went out to dinner tonight. He said he would pay, but
when we got up to the counter, he told me that he couldn't find his wallet,
or that's what he said. He went out to the car to look for it, still couldn't
find it, so he asked me to pay when he said he would. When we got to the
car to leave, he found his wallet. I think he was just trying to get out of
paying. Now when I go to the grocery store on Wednesday I'm not getting
anything he wants, and I will tell him that unless he gives me the money
for dinner, I will not let him eat any of the food I buy and I will hide it if I
have to. I don't think he really misplaced his wallet; I think he just didn't
want to pay. Do you guys think I'm being unfair? Do you think I'm making
a big deal out of something that isn't necissary?

Post 2 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Friday, 26-Feb-2016 23:41:13

That doesn't necessarily mean he was trying to get out of paying. He could genuinely have misplaced his wallet.

Post 3 by ApplePeaches (If the zone bbs was a drug, I'd need rehab.) on Friday, 26-Feb-2016 23:50:55

Yeah but we went to get gas before dinner and he had it. He goes out to
the car to look for 30 seconds and couldn't find it, and then we get back in
the car to leave and all of a sudden he finds it right away.

Post 4 by Westcoastcdngrl (move over school!) on Saturday, 27-Feb-2016 3:37:18

Over the years, have you ever paid your Mom back for all of the tins of food that
you've opened and put back into the cupboard to let spoil because they weren't what
you thought they were?

No? Then I think that it's incredibly rich of you to be getting bent out of shape about
what happened.

I think that you should cut your brother some slack about misplacing his wallet... it
happens and it's not like he wanted it to happen (nobody wants to lose their wallet),
whereas you knowingly put the opened cans of food back into the cupboard and
deliberately didn't tell anyone about it. I'm sure last night's meal didn't cost nearly as
much as the cumulative cost to your Mom and Dad of the food you've let spoil as a
result of your carelessness and I'm pretty sure that your Mom and Dad didn't not buy
more food or hide the food that they bought from you.... I'm sure that they also didn't
make you repay them for the food you wasted before they let you have more food.

You're being unfair and unless you have never in your whole adult life accidentally
misplaced an item and couldn't find it the first time you went looking for it but later
found it when you looked again, you're also being a hypocrite.

Post 5 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 27-Feb-2016 11:22:33

Smile

Post 6 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Saturday, 27-Feb-2016 14:10:57

Well said to post 4.

Post 7 by Scarlett (move over school!) on Saturday, 27-Feb-2016 15:42:50

Yes to post 4.

Also sounds like he paid for gas even though he was the one driving your ass there. Get over it.

Post 8 by Shadow_Cat (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 27-Feb-2016 16:30:51

Preach it Kate!

Post 9 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Saturday, 27-Feb-2016 21:29:29

I third post four's eloquence. apple, get the fuck over yourself and grow up.

Post 10 by ApplePeaches (If the zone bbs was a drug, I'd need rehab.) on Saturday, 27-Feb-2016 23:14:00

Well I find it pretty interesting that he claimed he couldn't find his wallet,
went out to the car for nearly 30 seconds to look, comes back saying he
can't find it, asks me to pay, and then gets back in the car and finds his
wallet immediately. And he didn't even thank me for dinner or anything. I
think he was just trying to stick me with the bill.

For the record, it was just my mom who found those cans; my parents are
divorced. Once when I wasted 8 cans of celtzer water (sorry about the
spelling) she made me give her the money for them.

Post 11 by write away (The Zone's Blunt Object) on Sunday, 28-Feb-2016 1:04:17

Sweetie, if everyone made you repay for all the damage you've caused with all your stupid accidents--and I do mean stupid literally--you'd be well beyond broke. In fact, the reason you're so bold and brash with your idiocy is because everyone has seemingly gave you a pass in life. No one's ever made you pay. And if they have, it clearly wasn't enough. Let's see: if your brother didn't drive your sorry behind to dinner, you probably wouldn't be going out to eat... or if you were, you'd probably come back home with another embarrassing story to regail us with. so... considering that, damn right... I'd have misplaced my wallet if I were Brother Dearest too.

Post 12 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Sunday, 28-Feb-2016 1:21:03

ApplePeaches, get over yourself and make a wise choice to grow up--you oughta be old enough to know that things just happen in life, including people forgetting where their wallet is, then remembering it randomly, even if only a few minutes later.
It happens, as I and others have said. The sooner you acknowledge this fact, and accept it, the better off everyone will be (we won't have to listen to you spew the crap you do, people wouldn't be wrongfully accused by you of things they didn't do and you might actually learn a thing or two). I mean, I'm not holding my breath, but it's at least worth saying.

Post 13 by ApplePeaches (If the zone bbs was a drug, I'd need rehab.) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 1:01:13

If I told someone I was gonna treat them to dinner, I would make sure I had
my wallet first. I would make sure I had my wallet before offering to pay. I
wouldn't go up to the counter and say I can't find my credit card, right when
it's time to pay.

Post 14 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 11:13:38

Are you not able to comprehend what we're saying? Sometimes, things, just, happen!! Like it or not, sometimes we forget things, just like sometimes we're irresponsible and don't clean up after we've opened up several cans of food. Well, only you would do such a thing...but the point remains: things like leaving your wallet, or flat out forgetting it, happen sometimes. That's a mistake. Opening up several cans and then not cleaning up after yourself, or telling someone you've made a mess, is not a mistake. It's stupidity. Those are two very different things, in case you didn't know.

Post 15 by forereel (Just posting.) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 13:14:47

Well, she has a point.
If I say "I'm taking you to dinner" I make sure I have my wallet.
If I don't have my wallet for some reason, and the person I took to dinner pays, I reimburse them once I have my wallet.
Fair point. Smile.

Post 16 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 13:17:58

No, she doesn't have a point. Things happen, no matter what your intentions are.
For example, I don't intend to be hospitalized anytime soon, but there's no telling what will happen.

Post 17 by write away (The Zone's Blunt Object) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 15:45:51

I actually think her brother did trick her. but I think he was justified. lol.

Post 18 by Flidais (WISEST IS SHE WHO KNOWS THAT SHE DOES NOT KNOW) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 16:23:47

Are we really all such sad human beings, that we feel the irresistible need to constantly bash someone whom it's clear we've already bashed time and time again? Before you reply with "she posted so fair game" just take a moment to think? do you always do negative things just because the opportunity is there? There's a big difference between bashing and disagreeing/contradicting one's post/statement. Just SMH right now.

Post 19 by forereel (Just posting.) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 18:14:26

If you drive a car, you bring your wallet.
The police don't understand about how you didn't intend.
So, she's got the point on this.

Post 20 by Westcoastcdngrl (move over school!) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 18:22:13

Be that as it may, but to accuse him of wanting to weasel his way out of paying just
because she felt that he didn't look long enough for his wallet is wrong of her to have
done. It happens that even us sighteds can't always find a lost or misplaced item
from time to time.

I once misplaced my wallet in my car one night and couldn't find it... I looked several
times during the course of the evening and spent several minutes each time looking
and still couldn't find it.

Finally, the next morning, when there was daylight, I was able to locate it... it had
fallen under the driver's side seat in such a way that I wouldn't ordinarily have felt it
when I looked and because the wallet is black and it was dark outside when I went to
look for the wallet and my car was parked in a darkened area, it's not surprising that I
couldn't find it.

Post 21 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 18:34:13

Boy has wallit in back pants pocket.
Boy is driving, wallet falls out in the bucket seat and kind of slides down where the gear shift is.
Boy returns to car after finding it missing, turns on the light. Wallet is leather, gear box is also dark colored, normal average person car carpet that needs to hit the carwash on the weekend or something. Boy misses small lump which is the wallet.
Boy puts girl in car seat and resumes to drive, kicks it off the parking brake, and moves stick from neutral to drive if automatic or kicks it into first if he's using a clutch.
Now with the stick, he pushes the clutch with the left foot and his right one bracing himself maybe on a hill kicks something funny on the floor with the heel of his shoe which happens to be his wallet.
If it's a automatic like most are now, he puts it in drive after taking off the parking brake. Dome light shining for awhile before it shuts off, he spots some kind of shadow type situation when adjusting the side mirror and there it is.
Just a hodge podge way to illustrate how this could have easily happened.

A deep bucket seat and a pair of pants with shallow back pockets will make this happen. A man hates to lose his wallet, so this would have made him feel naked. So I forgot to mention the immense relief at having found the wallet.
I can figger this out how one could be fully sighted and have this happen, and I'm a lifelong blind bat. So maybe go roll / smoke a ginormous mcDoob and chill out for awhile and think about this. It's very easy.
I've by accident had my stupid phone fall out of my pocket into someone's car to the left of the bucket seat.
Depends on the pants, depends on the pocket, depends on the bucket seat.

Post 22 by Shadow_Cat (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 18:36:05

Wayne, you're assuming you'd know if you had your wallet. Are you telling me you have never left the house, thinking your wallet was in something like, say, a coat pocket, only to get to your destination and realize oh shit, I could have sworn I had my wallet, and I don't? Or, if not your wallet, then say your keys, your phone, or some other object that you'd normally carry with you while out and about? If you can honestly say you've never done this, then you're the only person I know who can. My family, friends, and every other acquaintance I know reasonably well has had this happen to them at one point or another in life, with an object they'd normally try to be sure they carried.

Agreed, Bernadetta. Even if her brother did trick her, I have no sympathy.

Post 23 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 22:31:51

Well said. I've done that myself on many occasions, thinking I'd lost something only to realize much later that it was on me the whole time.

Post 24 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 23:17:11

For those that don't know, a man's wallet is typically carried in a rear pocket
with the pocket comb. It's basically with us in the pants, as it were, so usually
doesn't fall out. Unless the situation I described earlier.

Post 25 by ApplePeaches (If the zone bbs was a drug, I'd need rehab.) on Monday, 29-Feb-2016 23:46:09

Yeah but if I was going to tell someone I would treat them to dinner, I would
stick to my word. I always have my wallet in my backpack or purse, so if I
need my wallet, I always know where to find it. I don't put it on the kitchen
counter, in the sink, on the toilet tank, in the cupboard. The point is, I
always have my wallet. If you get pulled over and the police asks to see
your driver's license, they're not going to take I can't find my wallet for an
excuse. If you don't show it to them you go to jail.

Post 26 by Westcoastcdngrl (move over school!) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 13:07:02

Why are you getting so bent out of shape about this?

I mean seriously... is your life so pathetic that you have to dwell on this and let it rule
you? You're going to get bent out of shape because your brother inadvertently stiffed
you on a meal?

Do you pay him for the gas he uses to take you places? Do you pay towards the cost
of the insurance or upkeep of his vehicle? No? Yet you find it completely reasonable
get all hot and bothered and angry at him because you think he lied about wanting to
pay for you two to go out for dinner.

Jeepers, Miss, it's called life... things like what happen at the restaurant happen to
people with the best of intentions and you really need to learn how to relax and let it
go... this isn't the first time that someone's inadvertently lost their wallet and found it
shortly afterward and it's certainly not going to be the last time it happens, so you're
going to have to learn to accept it when things like this happen to you and learn how
to go with the flow and not get so worked up about it.

In regards to someone not being able to produce a driving permit on demand to the
police, your statement is a lie. You DO NOT automatically go to jail for not having a
driving license on you... it doesn't work like that.

If a driver is pulled over and cannot produce a license on the spot, there are
provisions in the law where the driver is granted 24 to 48 hours to go to the police
station and produce the license before anything bad will happen, and even if the
license can't be produced within that time period, jail is not the first course of
punishment just because the license hasn't been produced.

Naturally, in the case of a suspected drunk driving incident, these allowances do not
apply and the driver can and often will receive a 24-72 hour roadside suspension with
no jail time (the length of the roadside suspension varies from jurisdiction to
jurisdiction) while, in the case of being suspected of DUI on an already suspended
license, the intoxicated driver will be taken into custody for driving on a suspended
license... driving on a suspended license is completely different than driving without
or not being able to produce an active license.

Post 27 by forereel (Just posting.) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 13:25:51

Driving without ID in America will get you arrested in some situations.
It has to be proven you are who you are.
Now as to misplacing my wallet, it happens, but at home. I can't remember thinking I had it and find once I get to a place I don't.
I'm OCD or DCO or something. I check my stuff right before I leave the house. Crazy I know, but I can't walk out of the dorr and feel comfortable if I don't.
I also don't carry my wallet like a regular man. It goes in my front pocket, or my purse.
But, if I did, reimbursement, or wash dishes at the eating place. Lol
You drink up a $50 bottle of wine, eat up some $20 meals and owe $80 and tax and explain to your server you lost and misplaced your wallet.
If your girl can't, or won't pay, they take you to the back room and paddle you, plus make you clean dishes for 2 hours before letting you go home to find it.
JK.

Post 28 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 18:10:36

Wayne, you and Apple just don't get it. However, I'll focus on you, because she's not worth my time or energy.
Count yourself lucky if you've never, ever, ever misplaced something you usually take outside with you. You are the only human being on this earth that I know who has never left without their phone, wallet, hair gel in their hair, or what have you.
Apple, enjoy having Wayne in your corner, cause the rest of us think this post is ridiculous!!

Post 29 by BryanP22 (Novice theriminist) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 18:53:43

My dad's fully sighted and he misplaces things all the time. Usually they're right there in front of him. It happens. Get over it and get on with life I say.

Post 30 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 18:53:50

My gripe is there's more important things to worry over:
Do I have enough to pay rent? Yes.
Do I have enough to pay bills?
Do I have enough to make it through the month?
Will I make it through the month?
Will this person I care about live? Not likely. And, here I sit, awaiting bad news.
Will my foodstamps come in?
How will I pay for transportation, when the price has been raised, as of 03-01-2016?
And, that's not all. Will this person's service, who isn't doing well, be at a time I can attend?
Blessings,
Sarah

Post 31 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 21:35:07

Seriously Wayne, just ask her out, you don't have to butter her up so much in
public. The iron is hot enough, now man up and hit the damn thing would you?
You're wimpy flirting is getting old. If you want to get apple on her back so
badly, just tell her that.

Post 32 by forereel (Just posting.) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 21:58:32

I really do misplace things sometimes. I just haven't left home without them unless I couldn't find them and had no choice but to go.
I serious, I check myself directly before I leave and I mean walk out the door.
I have lost things while out, but really it has been a really long time, years.
I honestly can't afford to be without my wallet, so I've learned to make sure I'm never without.
It isn't so strange really.
As to Apple....
Lol

Post 33 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 22:28:20

Perhaps it's the prospect of being bitten like a book bag. *smile*

Post 34 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 22:41:37

Wayne, yes it really is beyond strange. Cause it doesn't matter how important I know it is to have my phone, purse, ETC. Sometimes, when you get in a hurry, oh wait, you probably don't do that, but for those of us who do, when we're in a hurry, we occasionally forget things. I'm not gonna lie, I've been there done that, and bought the T-shirt. Besides, as was said, even sighted people forget things, which is why I have a hard time believing that you never ever ever forget things yourself.

Post 35 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2016 22:51:53

Come now Chelsea, you and I both know that Wayne couldn't possibly care
about something so much that he'd ever let himself get into something so awful
as a hurry. That would require him to value something enough to let it affect
him.

Post 36 by ApplePeaches (If the zone bbs was a drug, I'd need rehab.) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2016 0:51:06

Yeah but you should never leave the house without your essentials, phone,
wallet, id, etc. When you go out somewhere like to a meal or shopping, you
can't get something without spending money. That goes without saying.
The other day I almost forgot a bottle of gatorade on the table that I was
going to take for school. Had I forgot that, there is a difference between
forgetting that and forgetting money. You don't need gatorade to pay for
things.

Post 37 by forereel (Just posting.) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2016 13:07:47

I'm sorry Chelsea. I simply can't go out of the door without checking myself for the things I need.
Because I know how I am, and yes, I mmight need to hurry to catch a bus or something, I get my things together early when I know I am going out.
Even so, I still check for the basic things I must have.
My wallet, keys,. I don't have to have my phone, but I check for it too.
Even in a hurry, you can't leave the house without your cane, or shoes, right, so why is it difficult to believe I can't leave with my wallet and keys?
I understand I'm odd, But, when I was a teen, I learned to be this way, so it just doesn't happen.
The last time I actually lost my wallet was due to laziness and I was already out and returning back to the house I was visiting.
I dropped it in the taxi getting out, because I was to lazy to replace it where it is kept on my person when I left the store.
But leaving home, I don't do it.
I also have specific places to keep things like my wallet, phone, keys in my house.
I'd probably drive you crazy, but it is how I'm built.
Even on the spur when someone says, hey, lets go, I still have to check.

Post 38 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Monday, 07-Mar-2016 22:14:31

No cody, you butter her up, remember? :)

Post 39 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 11:37:49

Butter her up, sing songs to her outside her window, do it all ... get 'er done!

Post 40 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 14:27:11

I'd hate to make Wayne jealous. So I will bow out of this one, she's all his for
the picking, and best of luck to the both of them.

Post 41 by forereel (Just posting.) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 15:26:05

I never get jealous.
I believe in allowing people there free space.
But, all that would depend on if they was interested too.
So far I've not had an invite to lunch and such.
Smile.

Post 42 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 15:39:45

Young stud, older stud. Which is she gonna pick?

Post 43 by write away (The Zone's Blunt Object) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 15:44:08

hmmm. well, she already named her dog after the young stud... looks like the old studd just lost... Then again, she already killed cody dog and threw him in the trash. Looks like the old studd might stand a chance for real again.... lol.

Post 44 by forereel (Just posting.) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 16:17:10

Nothing wrong with trying for who you think you want, is there?
Smile.

Post 45 by Ed_G (Zone BBS is my Life) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 16:51:18

Go on big Wayners, make a play for a squeeze of those Appley Peaches.

Post 46 by Westcoastcdngrl (move over school!) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 16:54:59

But in her Friends with benefits thread, it would appear that our dear Miss Apple likes
older men, so Wayne has a chance with her... just sayin'

Post 47 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 17:16:45

"Ooh he loves her peaches, ... shake her tree?" Ok I'm butchering Steve Miller with that one but still ...

Post 48 by Ed_G (Zone BBS is my Life) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 17:18:06

Millions of peaches, peaches for Wayne. The thought of those Peaches, drives
him insane.

Post 49 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 17:21:24

Wayne and the Giant Peach(es)

Post 50 by forereel (Just posting.) on Tuesday, 08-Mar-2016 21:46:27

All these match makers.
Smile.

Post 51 by CrystalSapphire (Uzuri uongo ndani) on Friday, 11-Mar-2016 7:41:44

I agree with what others have said. shit happens.

Post 52 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Friday, 11-Mar-2016 13:32:37

Wayne, it is difficult to understand that you are the way you are because this is not about who does or doesn't check for things on their person. I'd venture to say that Cody, Leo and I all check for everything we need on our person any time we're headed out, but that does not mean that we never forget things or that someone hasn't been in our residence and moved something around that we need before leaving. I know, I know, you'll say that that just never happens to you, to which I'll reply "Well Wayne you really did just drop from Mars because you are the only person (blind and sighted alike) I know of on this earth who regular, common, if you will, things just never happen to.

Post 53 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Friday, 11-Mar-2016 17:29:37

He won't leave his wallet, and she won't leave her peaches.
She did make a post about a sweater-puppy regressing, I think.

Post 54 by turricane (happiness and change are choices ) on Friday, 11-Mar-2016 20:14:55

apple peaches pumpkin ie. you're so young, my oh my. get a grip and find a life. the wallet story is just senseless. in the grand panoply of life what difference does it make? you bought his dinner. big frigadoon deal. if you're that mad at him don't go out to dinner again withhim. get over it. as for wasting 8 cans of seltzer water, if you were my kid, you'd pay me back. is the concept that your mom paid for what you wasted a foreign one? stuff costs money. adults are responsible for their actions. end of story.

Post 55 by turricane (happiness and change are choices ) on Friday, 11-Mar-2016 20:17:28

another thing if your brother found his wallet, why didn't you just nicely ask him to please pay you back. if he refused, then you don'thave to go out with him again. all this ranting about ou buying only food for yourself is silly and childish.

Post 56 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 12-Mar-2016 12:00:20

Yes, that is a point. She could have asked him to pay her. Did you Apple Peaches?
Chelsea, I'm sorry, my wallet just doesn't get left, moved, or whatever.
My visitors will catch hell if they move my things, and this is known.
I have kkids, and you learn when they are small to put things in secure places, so now I live alone, I follow this rule.
Not everything, but things that matter, like my wallet.
I have a hook on the back of my door my keys go on soon as I come inside.
Sorry, I'm just strange that way. Lol
Now, if I had the Peaches, I might leave her at home sometimes, but mainly... I'd not forget her and take her too.
She'd be really easy to check to see if she's with me, so.
Laughing.

Post 57 by turricane (happiness and change are choices ) on Saturday, 12-Mar-2016 13:16:59

sighted people kill me. the never can find stuff. don't they know that if you put it down in the same place and people leavae it there it can be found? my son in law is a case in point. every blessed night he comes in, tosses his keys somewhere. low and behold, the next morming, he can't find his keys.

Post 58 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 12-Mar-2016 17:10:19

I can't do that. I have to put things in a place.
I have a hook for the keys, a place for my wallet. I keep my cane at my door.
When I'm ready to rumble, my stuff can be laid hands on period.
I've read the complaint about people coming to blind persons houses and moving things, but I haven't had that issue.
The people that visit me have respect, and basicly are lazy. It takes some effert to be looking and moving my stuff, so. Lol
They just aren't interested enough.
I serve the drinks, food, or whatever, and if an over night guest, give them what they need if they don't already know where it is.

Post 59 by Flop Eared Monster (Adorably monsterous) on Sunday, 13-Mar-2016 17:51:35

OMG! Reallly? People lose things, people try to get out of paying their share too. Whether he did or didn't, he's your brother that means family! If he didn't give you any money back, I'm sure he'll make it up in some other way at some point. That's how family works! Sheesh! All this to do about nothing.